As reality continue to set in on the Scandinavian model stretching its welfare state to unsustainable levels, what will happen to the progressive tactic of citing it - alliteration aside?
The idea that Sweden of why has low income inequality (and until recently low unemployment) is not that hard understand. It's a tiny, homogenous society. But as immigration increases, just like unemployment, inequality will rise.
It's only natural as, despite what leftists deliriously believe, we're not all equal or have the same standards. Not saying one is better than the other; just that humans come in all sorts of shapes, sizes and differences. Like, education, culture, goals and objectives, etc., etc.
To compare it to other more diversified Western nations like the United States is absurd. If America remained 'white' with its economic dynamism it too would have the same figures to misleadingly boast about. Alas, America is free and accepts immigrants en masse.
As the economic evidence mounts against it, it will become less and less valid to cite Scandinavia as a model to copy. The only thing left to consider is the Sweden progressives long for in their utopian minds.
If anything, especially on matters related to freedom, it must be avoided.
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Alas...
"...In all the Nordic countries, there is broad general agreement across the political spectrum that only when people’s basic needs are met -- when they can cease to worry about their jobs, their incomes, their housing, their transportation, their health care, their kids’ education, and their aging parents -- only then can they be free to do as they like. While the U.S. settles for the fantasy that, from birth, every kid has an equal shot at the American dream, Nordic social welfare systems lay the foundations for a more authentic equality and individualism.
I don't think free is what they think it means.
Anyway. Yeah. I highly doubt in a tiny labour force like Sweden there are plenty of jobs for immigrant. I'ma gonna guess the employment gap between native Swedes and immigrants is huge.
Immigrants will always skew income inequality because of the forces of low and high skilled workers demanding and earning different wages. It's only normal. To try and equate a low skill job with a skilled one through pay is retarded.
As if that's the 'only' thing we will cease to worry about. I'm sure they'll find other things beyond what's mentioned here. Also, seems to me planned equality and individualism are mutually exclusive.
Say what you want but when I think Scandinavia I DO NOT think individualism or freedom.
I think groupthink, collectivism and boring.In fact, when I think Scandinavia, I see this article.
I know. I'm a neo-liberal, right-wing extreme asshole. Blah, blah.
These ideas are not novel. They are implied in the preamble to our own Constitution. You know, the part about “we the People” forming “a more perfect Union” to “promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.” Even as he prepared the nation for war, President Franklin D. Roosevelt memorably specified components of what that general welfare should be in his State of the Union address in 1941. Among the “simple basic things that must never be lost sight of,” he listed “equality of opportunity for youth and others, jobs for those who can work, security for those who need it, the ending of special privileges for the few, the preservation of civil liberties for all,” and oh yes, higher taxes to pay for those things and for the cost of defensive armaments.
Derp? Man, it's amazing the looonnnng leash they give to 'general welfare.' Apparently, it is to be taken literally right from cradle to grave.
Knowing that Americans used to support such ideas, a Norwegian today is appalled to learn that a CEO of a major American corporation makes between 300 and 400 times as much as its average employee. Or that governors Sam Brownback of Kansas and Chris Christie of New Jersey, having run up their state’s debts by cutting taxes for the rich, now plan to cover the loss with money snatched from the pension funds of workers in the public sector. To a Norwegian, the job of government is to distribute the country’s good fortune reasonably equally, not send it zooming upward, as in America today, to a sticky-fingered one percent."
Wow.
First off, I don't (respectfully) give a shit about Norwegians being appalled and nor should any American. Treating citizens like children is not my idea of an advanced society. And I'm getting weary of reading about CEO's and their salaries out of context.
Above all, all she's done is advocate for slavery by other means. The idea that government must take care of us all is just plain creepy at this point. It's not enlightenment at all. I just don't see how permitting 'your betters' to hand you free shit is progressive.
A government big enough to promise you all this is big enough to take it all away since, you know, it shouldn't have been doing it in the first place.
The idea that Sweden of why has low income inequality (and until recently low unemployment) is not that hard understand. It's a tiny, homogenous society. But as immigration increases, just like unemployment, inequality will rise.
It's only natural as, despite what leftists deliriously believe, we're not all equal or have the same standards. Not saying one is better than the other; just that humans come in all sorts of shapes, sizes and differences. Like, education, culture, goals and objectives, etc., etc.
To compare it to other more diversified Western nations like the United States is absurd. If America remained 'white' with its economic dynamism it too would have the same figures to misleadingly boast about. Alas, America is free and accepts immigrants en masse.
As the economic evidence mounts against it, it will become less and less valid to cite Scandinavia as a model to copy. The only thing left to consider is the Sweden progressives long for in their utopian minds.
If anything, especially on matters related to freedom, it must be avoided.
***
Alas...
"...In all the Nordic countries, there is broad general agreement across the political spectrum that only when people’s basic needs are met -- when they can cease to worry about their jobs, their incomes, their housing, their transportation, their health care, their kids’ education, and their aging parents -- only then can they be free to do as they like. While the U.S. settles for the fantasy that, from birth, every kid has an equal shot at the American dream, Nordic social welfare systems lay the foundations for a more authentic equality and individualism.
I don't think free is what they think it means.
Anyway. Yeah. I highly doubt in a tiny labour force like Sweden there are plenty of jobs for immigrant. I'ma gonna guess the employment gap between native Swedes and immigrants is huge.
Immigrants will always skew income inequality because of the forces of low and high skilled workers demanding and earning different wages. It's only normal. To try and equate a low skill job with a skilled one through pay is retarded.
As if that's the 'only' thing we will cease to worry about. I'm sure they'll find other things beyond what's mentioned here. Also, seems to me planned equality and individualism are mutually exclusive.
Say what you want but when I think Scandinavia I DO NOT think individualism or freedom.
I think groupthink, collectivism and boring.In fact, when I think Scandinavia, I see this article.
I know. I'm a neo-liberal, right-wing extreme asshole. Blah, blah.
These ideas are not novel. They are implied in the preamble to our own Constitution. You know, the part about “we the People” forming “a more perfect Union” to “promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.” Even as he prepared the nation for war, President Franklin D. Roosevelt memorably specified components of what that general welfare should be in his State of the Union address in 1941. Among the “simple basic things that must never be lost sight of,” he listed “equality of opportunity for youth and others, jobs for those who can work, security for those who need it, the ending of special privileges for the few, the preservation of civil liberties for all,” and oh yes, higher taxes to pay for those things and for the cost of defensive armaments.
Derp? Man, it's amazing the looonnnng leash they give to 'general welfare.' Apparently, it is to be taken literally right from cradle to grave.
Knowing that Americans used to support such ideas, a Norwegian today is appalled to learn that a CEO of a major American corporation makes between 300 and 400 times as much as its average employee. Or that governors Sam Brownback of Kansas and Chris Christie of New Jersey, having run up their state’s debts by cutting taxes for the rich, now plan to cover the loss with money snatched from the pension funds of workers in the public sector. To a Norwegian, the job of government is to distribute the country’s good fortune reasonably equally, not send it zooming upward, as in America today, to a sticky-fingered one percent."
Wow.
First off, I don't (respectfully) give a shit about Norwegians being appalled and nor should any American. Treating citizens like children is not my idea of an advanced society. And I'm getting weary of reading about CEO's and their salaries out of context.
Above all, all she's done is advocate for slavery by other means. The idea that government must take care of us all is just plain creepy at this point. It's not enlightenment at all. I just don't see how permitting 'your betters' to hand you free shit is progressive.
A government big enough to promise you all this is big enough to take it all away since, you know, it shouldn't have been doing it in the first place.
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